Dealing with DMARC for Mail intermediaries

I’ve been getting some mail and calls from folks looking for help on resolving the issue of DMARC bouncing. Some of these calls are from ESPs, but others are from SAAS providers who have users that have signed up with yahoo.com addresses and are now dealing with mail from those users bouncing, even when mail is going back too those users.
None of the solutions are really great, but here are a couple options.
1) Prohibit users users from sending with @yahoo.com header-from addresses. This will be challenging for some companies for all sorts of reasons. I have seen a number of people suggest switching to @hotmail.com or @gmail.com addresses. This only works as long as Gmail and Hotmail/Outlook don’t start publishing p=reject policies. It’s unclear if they’re even considering this at all, but it may happen.
2) Rewrite the header-from address from @yahoo.com to something you control. One thing I’ve been suggesting to customers is set up a specific domain for rewriting, like @yahoo.ESP.com. This domain would need to forward mail back to the @yahoo.com users, which does add another layer of complexity as these addresses will become spam magnets. Thus the forwarding IP should be on a distinct and separate IP, to prevent interference with other systems. Note, too, that any users sending to these reply addresses from a domain protected by DMARC p=reject will bounce.
If you have questions or want to ask specifically about what to do in your setup, I’ve blocked out some time in my schedule next week for companies. If you want more information about this please contact me to for available times, information requirements and pricing.

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How widespread is the problem? Andrew Barrett publishes numbers, pulled from his employer, related to the number of senders using @yahoo.com addresses in their commercial emails. Short version: a low percentage but a lot of users and emails in raw numbers.
What can mailing list managers do? Right now the two answers seem to be stop Yahoo.com addresses from posting or fix your mailing list software. Al has posted how he patched his software to cope, and linked to a post by OnlineGroups.net about how they patched their software.
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