More Yahoo domains get DMARC'd

Yahoo is turning on p=reject for 62 of their international domains on March 28, 2016. These domains include:
y7mail.com
yahoo.at
yahoo.be
yahoo.bg
yahoo.cl
yahoo.co.hu
yahoo.co.id
yahoo.co.il
yahoo.co.kr
yahoo.co.th
yahoo.co.za
yahoo.com.co
yahoo.com.hr
yahoo.com.my
yahoo.com.pe
yahoo.com.ph
yahoo.com.sg
yahoo.com.tr
yahoo.com.tw
yahoo.com.ua
yahoo.com.ve
yahoo.com.vn
yahoo.cz
yahoo.dk
yahoo.ee
yahoo.fi
yahoo.hr
yahoo.hu
yahoo.ie
yahoo.lt
yahoo.lv
yahoo.nl
yahoo.no
yahoo.pl
yahoo.pt
yahoo.rs
yahoo.se
yahoo.si
yahoo.sk
yahoogroups.co.kr
yahoogroups.com.cn
yahoogroups.com.sg
yahoogroups.com.tw
yahoogrupper.dk
yahoogruppi.it
yahooxtra.co.nz
yahoo.ca
yahoo.co.in
yahoo.co.nz
yahoo.co.uk
yahoo.com.ar
yahoo.com.au
yahoo.com.br
yahoo.com.hk
yahoo.com.mx
yahoo.de
yahoo.es
yahoo.fr
yahoo.gr
yahoo.in
yahoo.it
yahoo.ro
These may cause some delivery issues with international Yahoo domains during the transition period. Anyone using these domains in mail not sent through the Yahoo interface is likely to experience increased bounces at ISPs who are respecting the p=reject request in the DMARC record.

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In the rush to deploy their DMARC policy, apparently Yahoo forgot they have hundreds of other domains. Domains that are currently not publishing a DMARC policy. Spammers are now using those domains as the 5322.from address in their emails. The mail isn’t coming through any yahoo.com domain, but came through an IP belonging to Sprint PCS.
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The conversation surrounding how we minimize the damage to the ecosystem that p=reject policy imposed hasn’t really happened. I think it is a shame and a failure that people can’t even discuss the implications of this policy. Even now that people have done the firefighting to deal with the immediate problems there still doesn’t seem to be the desire to discuss the longer effect of these changes. Just saying “these are challenges” in certain spaces gets the response “just deal with it.” Well, yes, we are trying to deal with it.
I contend that in order to “just deal with it”, we have to define “IT.” We can’t solve a problem if we can’t define the problem we’re trying to solve. Sadly, it seems legitimate mailers are stuck coping with the fallout, while spammers have moved on and are totally unaffected.
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There are a bunch of them and they’re all worth reading.
I have more to say about DMARC, both in terms of advice for senders and list managers affected by this, and in terms of the broader implications of this policy decision. But those articles are going to take me a little longer to write.
How widespread is the problem? Andrew Barrett publishes numbers, pulled from his employer, related to the number of senders using @yahoo.com addresses in their commercial emails. Short version: a low percentage but a lot of users and emails in raw numbers.
What can mailing list managers do? Right now the two answers seem to be stop Yahoo.com addresses from posting or fix your mailing list software. Al has posted how he patched his software to cope, and linked to a post by OnlineGroups.net about how they patched their software.
A number of people are recommending adding an Original Authentication Results header as recommended in the DMARC.org FAQ. I’m looking for more information about how that would work.
For commercial mailers, there doesn’t seem to be that much to do except to not use @yahoo.com address as your header-From address. Yes, this may affect delivery while you’re switching to the new From address, but right now your mail isn’t going to any mailbox provider that implements DMARC checking.
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